I received the following comment from a reader. Usually, I do not have the time to respond to every comment, but I am kind of fishing here for some more guidance – either further condemning me or supporting me in my madness….
This in from Rhonda:
RhondaOctober 8, 2015 at 5:55 PMLet me chasten you a bit– we all need it from time to time. John Taylor, a man who experienced lots of persecution himself, said “Do you think we are going to fail? Do you think the Lord is going to back down? I think not. Men may combine against us ignorantly, for many of them are very ignorant. I do not cherish the least feeling of wrath in my heart when I see the courts, legislators or Congress take steps inimical to us. They do not know what they do, hence we should feel charitably disposed to those who seek our injury. David prayed that God would send his enemies to hell quickly. Jesus, when he was being crucified, suffering the pain of a cruel death, said, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.” I like that prayer much better than the other one. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. They are thy children, though in the dark. Thou hast enlightened our minds, for which we feel thankful; but, O Lord, forgive them and lead them, if thou canst, in the way of life. This is the feeling we ought to have.”
-Journal of Discourses 21:98
I met Rhonda at a Wood Zone meeting in W. Jordan about two years ago. She is an elect lady – among the top five that I have met in this life. Her knowledge base is awesome and she understands the earlies in the Church. In so doing, she gets the bigger picture that most do not. In order to understand what is coming, we have to understand what the original mission of the Church was about.
On her comment; I struggle with charity, to some degree. I see things clearly – and do not have much tolerance for dissenting points of view. The way I see it, you are either on, or you are not. You are doing God’s will, or you are not. Black and white. If you are not, REPENT. It is so simple to me. NO middle ground. Just the truth. All else is in “get thee hence” territory. I see the middle as weakness.
I do not like compromise – as far as I am concerned, the mess we are in as a church is from people who have tried to move the doctrinal body of the Church to a middle ground from a position of power. I see these people as whiners, opportunists who prey on the weak or doctrinally unstable. I see people who claim they are homosexuals, mostly as people who need a good whack upside the head, a dose of manhood (maybe some testosterone injections and an injunction to stay away from soy products) and a good woman to keep the interests in place…. These baffle me – although I do get the occasional environmental mistake where a baby is born with both bits and they have to prune one or the other… That is something God will have to sort out….. For the rest, I say that they would NEVER have to wonder about “their sexuality” if they were not playing with fire outside the clearly established bounds of chastity. This includes chastity as it relates to pornography and other mind-twisting distortions of reality and what God has put out there for His children to follow… We live in a perverse society – and we need to repent when lines are crossed until the devil takes one to the point where they can say they are “gay” or where they can go from a man manly enough to trash on the Russian and East German competition of the day to win a decathlon and then declare “itself” a woman 30 years later….. Perverse….
So, back to this comment. When Christ said forgive them, they know not what they do, He was referring to the soldiers who strung him up, not the children of hell that conspired to string him up. For them, according to Josephus, this very God who allowed himself to be strung up, reserved a special kind of hell for them. They had to eat their own children to sustain themselves during the Roman siege that came a mere 37 years later. When the deluded and hellish people who were so dull and desensitized that they could NOT see the Son of God in their midst, decided that the temple would afford them protection, they then locked themselves inside (per Josephus) and those cedars of Lebanon did quite a job of roasting them – yea incinerating them to ashes. Hot enough to melt gold, that fire was. For the dude who decided to lob off John the Baptist’s head, the prize for that lovely deed was the “maggot treatment”, complete with eyeballs falling from the sockets as the rotting flesh around the orb was consumed by writhing armies of destruction.
Why go into detail on this stuff? Because I know that we are not held guiltless for our unrepented crimes against those who are just men and women made holy. I hold those in power over this land in contempt of worse things. I can see, in my mind’s eye millions dying in mortal combat, children suffering on an unprecedented scale, and so much rapine and murder as to shock the most hardened. This will come about by design – due to greed and the lust for power. So, do I think these who carry this out should get away with the crimes against the innocent alone – let alone those against the knowing who have rejected the truth in this land? Nope – I do not pray for them. I think they should be stopped in their tracks before they can do any more misery and cause any more hell on this orb than they already have. I want them gone – and gone now.
I know it is part of the plan, just as it was that a child of hell would betray Christ to those who meant Him harm – but that does not excuse the action, nor the consequence, nor the punishment.
As a woman, the role is to create life and nurture that life. As a man, I will have the unsavory role of defending innocent life. So when I see that a child of hell like obama and so many others who are giving him orders show blatant disregard for the life of my family and so many others, my first impulse as the defender, is to do a Teancum on him….. If I could change the course of history by doing something like that, so help me God, I would do it. Better early on before more innocent blood is spilled and hell is poured out upon the world. But, I know this is the plan – for us to be betrayed as a nation. We collectively, have brought it upon ourselves…… Now, we pay the price. It still does not absolve that monster, nor relegate him and those who work with him to the lowest place in hell until they have paid the uttermost farthing, or have comprehended the hell they have gone about creating. This is the God I know. One who is merciful to those who seek Him, just and perfect to those who seek the agenda of the adversary……
Rhonda, I respect you greatly – but I guess we will just have to call it a Mars/Venus kind of thing.
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I received the following comment from a reader. Usually, I do not have the time to respond to every comment, but I am kind of fishing here for some more guidance – either further condemning me or supporting me in my madness….
This in from Rhonda:
Let me chasten you a bit– we all need it from time to time. John Taylor, a man who experienced lots of persecution himself, said “Do you think we are going to fail? Do you think the Lord is going to back down? I think not. Men may combine against us ignorantly, for many of them are very ignorant. I do not cherish the least feeling of wrath in my heart when I see the courts, legislators or Congress take steps inimical to us. They do not know what they do, hence we should feel charitably disposed to those who seek our injury. David prayed that God would send his enemies to hell quickly. Jesus, when he was being crucified, suffering the pain of a cruel death, said, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.” I like that prayer much better than the other one. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. They are thy children, though in the dark. Thou hast enlightened our minds, for which we feel thankful; but, O Lord, forgive them and lead them, if thou canst, in the way of life. This is the feeling we ought to have.”
-Journal of Discourses 21:98
I met Rhonda at a Wood Zone meeting in W. Jordan about two years ago. She is an elect lady – among the top five that I have met in this life. Her knowledge base is awesome and she understands the earlies in the Church. In so doing, she gets the bigger picture that most do not. In order to understand what is coming, we have to understand what the original mission of the Church was about.
On her comment; I struggle with charity, to some degree. I see things clearly – and do not have much tolerance for dissenting points of view. The way I see it, you are either on, or you are not. You are doing God’s will, or you are not. Black and white. If you are not, REPENT. It is so simple to me. NO middle ground. Just the truth. All else is in “get thee hence” territory. I see the middle as weakness.
I do not like compromise – as far as I am concerned, the mess we are in as a church is from people who have tried to move the doctrinal body of the Church to a middle ground from a position of power. I see these people as whiners, opportunists who prey on the weak or doctrinally unstable. I see people who claim they are homosexuals, mostly as people who need a good whack upside the head, a dose of manhood (maybe some testosterone injections and an injunction to stay away from soy products) and a good woman to keep the interests in place…. These baffle me – although I do get the occasional environmental mistake where a baby is born with both bits and they have to prune one or the other… That is something God will have to sort out….. For the rest, I say that they would NEVER have to wonder about “their sexuality” if they were not playing with fire outside the clearly established bounds of chastity. This includes chastity as it relates to pornography and other mind-twisting distortions of reality and what God has put out there for His children to follow… We live in a perverse society – and we need to repent when lines are crossed until the devil takes one to the point where they can say they are “gay” or where they can go from a man manly enough to trash on the Russian and East German competition of the day to win a decathlon and then declare “itself” a woman 30 years later….. Perverse….
So, back to this comment. When Christ said forgive them, they know not what they do, He was referring to the soldiers who strung him up, not the children of hell that conspired to string him up. For them, according to Josephus, this very God who allowed himself to be strung up, reserved a special kind of hell for them. They had to eat their own children to sustain themselves during the Roman siege that came a mere 37 years later. When the deluded and hellish people who were so dull and desensitized that they could NOT see the Son of God in their midst, decided that the temple would afford them protection, they then locked themselves inside (per Josephus) and those cedars of Lebanon did quite a job of roasting them – yea incinerating them to ashes. Hot enough to melt gold, that fire was. For the dude who decided to lob off John the Baptist’s head, the prize for that lovely deed was the “maggot treatment”, complete with eyeballs falling from the sockets as the rotting flesh around the orb was consumed by writhing armies of destruction.
Why go into detail on this stuff? Because I know that we are not held guiltless for our unrepented crimes against those who are just men and women made holy. I hold those in power over this land in contempt of worse things. I can see, in my mind’s eye millions dying in mortal combat, children suffering on an unprecedented scale, and so much rapine and murder as to shock the most hardened. This will come about by design – due to greed and the lust for power. So, do I think these who carry this out should get away with the crimes against the innocent alone – let alone those against the knowing who have rejected the truth in this land? Nope – I do not pray for them. I think they should be stopped in their tracks before they can do any more misery and cause any more hell on this orb than they already have. I want them gone – and gone now.
I know it is part of the plan, just as it was that a child of hell would betray Christ to those who meant Him harm – but that does not excuse the action, nor the consequence, nor the punishment.
As a woman, the role is to create life and nurture that life. As a man, I will have the unsavory role of defending innocent life. So when I see that a child of hell like obama and so many others who are giving him orders show blatant disregard for the life of my family and so many others, my first impulse as the defender, is to do a Teancum on him….. If I could change the course of history by doing something like that, so help me God, I would do it. Better early on before more innocent blood is spilled and hell is poured out upon the world. But, I know this is the plan – for us to be betrayed as a nation. We collectively, have brought it upon ourselves…… Now, we pay the price. It still does not absolve that monster, nor relegate him and those who work with him to the lowest place in hell until they have paid the uttermost farthing, or have comprehended the hell they have gone about creating. This is the God I know. One who is merciful to those who seek Him, just and perfect to those who seek the agenda of the adversary……
Rhonda, I respect you greatly – but I guess we will just have to call it a Mars/Venus kind of thing.
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